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Davey is Pats' No. 2, but he may end up as a No. 1 elsewhere

Rohan Davey, New England's third-year quarterback, has been tearing up NFL Europe in unprecedented fashion, so a shot as a starter in the NFL may not be too far away.


01:00 AM EDT on Sunday, May 23, 2004


BY TOM E. CURRAN
Journal Sports Writer

With the 11th pick in this year's draft, the Pittsburgh Steelers selected Miami of Ohio quarterback Ben Roethlisberger. With the 22nd pick in the first round, the Bills took quarterback J.P. Losman, who played at Tulane.

Losman was deemed worthy of a first-round pick because of his work against teams such as East Carolina, Navy and UAB. Meanwhile, Roethlisberger made his mark in the MAC Conference, terrorizing Akron, Kent State and Bowling Green, among others.

If those two guys were worthy of first-round picks based on their work against middling college competition, what must Rohan Davey be worth?

Davey, the Patriots' third-year quarterback, has been tearing up NFL Europe in unprecedented fashion. Kurt Warner didn't have the statistical success in Europe that Davey is having. Neither did Jake Delhomme. And even if the level of competition across the pond isn't the same caliber as it is over here on Sundays in the fall, it's miles better than an afternoon spent picking apart Army, for instance.

Davey's work this spring for the Berlin Thunder has helped turn

him into a quarterback and a commodity. Teams in the market for a quarterback will need to ask themselves whether they'd rather spend a first-round pick on a kid who's three years removed from his senior prom or try to land a cannon-armed 26-year-old such as Davey, who's spent three seasons learning his trade in the NFL's best program.

Davey's contract runs through 2005. It's likely Davey will be gone to some quarterback-challenged team before that time comes.

Asked last week what Davey's work in Berlin means, Kansas City Chiefs general manager Bill Kuharich said, "If Rohan finishes the (Europe) season strong and then comes back here and bides his time behind (Patriots starter) Tom Brady, chances are someone will say, 'Well, he did it in Europe, so let's take a shot.' Carolina took a shot on Jake Delhomme. Going into this year, they needed a quarterback and they liked Jake's history."

Delhomme was acquired by the Panthers as a free agent from New Orleans before the 2003 season. He didn't have a lot of NFL work to recommend him -- just 86 passes thrown -- but he did win an NFL Europe title with Frankfurt in 1999. That may not have been a big deal before the 2003 season, but now that Delhomme has helped lead a team to the Super Bowl, the respect for NFL Europe seasoning may change.

Which would be good news for Davey and the Patriots.

Good news for Davey because he's playing well overseas at a time when there's as much high regard for developing players as there is for drafting them. Davey is trained, prepped and conditioned to the NFL. All on the Patriots' time and dime.

And good news for the Patriots because they could turn a player they originally got in the fourth round into possibly a first-round pick.

Not that Europe is a foolproof proving ground.

"Success in Europe can give an indication that a player may perform well given the opportunity, but it's not, 'OK, player A is successful in Europe, he'll succeed here.' Take Danny Wuerrfel. He held the record for touchdown passes in Europe and didn't have that kind of success here. But Warner was successful there and Delhomme had two stints there, one year behind Warner and another when he played. There's no question, it is a plus."

Of course, the Patriots value Davey themselves. Right now, he's their No. 1 backup, and with each passing week it seems less necessary for the Pats to import a veteran backup for Brady should the starter go down.

As Kuharich said, "Could Davey step in for Brady and help the Patriots be in the hunt again? Probably. At least off of what I've seen so far."

But as much as they like him, they have to realize Davey will want to leave.

"You want opportunities to show that you can play in the league and you can be a good quarterback," Davey said. "I know the situation I'm coming back to. We have a quarterback. We have a good quarterback. I know what's going on when I come back. All I can do is learn as much as I can and get better with whatever reps I get. My contract is with the Patriots."

For now, yes. But probably not for long.

http://www.projo.com/patriots/conten...ts.18086b.html
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who would have him as a starter???
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Wow, that's cool. I wonder where he'd go if someone wanted to pick him up.
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that is what i mean...he will most likely serve as a duo with a qb who is also not top of the range but i dont know who needs him right now.
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what do u guys think

Pack maybe but check this little debate out see who guys guys agree wit or what you would do.

What the Patriots should do if Brady isn't signed to a long terrm deal is keep Davey until they rework a long term contract with Brady. If Brady is asking price is way too much, then they should trade him to a team that needs a QB and get draft picks out of it and rework a contract with Davey and give him the starting job if he's really as good as people think.

haha...right...

i hope you were kidding when you said that. no matter what his asking price is we will pay it. you dont just let a guy go who very early in his career has two superbowl victories and two MVP awards...and they happen to be the only two superbowl victories in the history of the pats...

so no they shouldnt keep davey if they can get something big for him


So then you would pay him if he were to ask for a Peyton Manning type contract? I'm pretty sure he would ask for a contract in that range. (2 Super Bowl appearances in 3 years, 2 SB MVP's) If you look at what the Pats have done in the past then you know they're not scared to let someone go once they know they're expandable (Bledsoe by Brady, Milloy by Harrison) Does it ring a bell? They might of done the same thing to Ty Law if they would of acquired some one in the off season to replace him. You should know this, you're a Pats fan arent you? Plus if his contract was that big then who would you cut to make room for a signing like that?


yup i think they would pay him a contract just like mannings...why not he led the team to 2 superbowl victories.

the difference between letting bledsoe go because brady came along was brady kicked *** and bledsoe didnt do anything except blow big games for us. if you look at milloy he had a big contract and produced nothing the year before. now if we let go of ty law its not goign to be that big of a loss as would be lettign go of brady.

who would they cut? i do not know. i do know he is here until 2006 and they will take care of that when it comes...but its like denver not resiging elway or miami not resigning marino. its not goign to happen until his career is over.



We'll see about that in '06. In your other post regarding the Pats you said that the system makes players better than what they really are. Does that apply to Brady also or is it an exception. Plus you can't compare Brady with Elway or Marino yet. Maybe if he gets a few more solid years, then you probably could but as of now you can't.

Who do you agree with? The Bold or Italics? What would u guys do?
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franchise qb's = wins. Brady is a great qb, and despite pats eager releasings you know that they would keep Brady.
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I have to agree with the bolds. But, Davey hasn't proved anything yet.
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no nfl europe is not the standards of the nfl.
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they could give him to us..... the Dolphins.... we invested in Jay Feely who hasn't proven anything... and Fiedler sucks.... after that report I'm pretty sold....give him to us.... j/k.....

I don't think the Patriots have any intentions of trading Brady away.... they opened up their wallets a few times before and out of all the players they have give big contracts too, right now none are more deserving than their young QB Brady...... Although i credit alot of the teams success to their mastermind Coach Belichick and their great defensive schemes.... Brady is also a reason why.
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lol. maybe you guys could get him...or a new rb...j/k.
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we don't need a new RB we need a sober one..... anyays ricky only had one bad season and it as the O-Line's fault not his.....

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lol he did have a real bad year though...
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