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If Brady and Manning both were traded to equally even teams that weren't good. Who would have a better season? By that I mean bad O linemen, bad receivers, and bad running backs.
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If Brady and Manning both were traded to equally even teams that weren't good. Who would have a better season? By that I mean bad O linemen, bad receivers, and bad running backs.
Problem is, we don't know for sure about that. With that said, I'd rather have Peyton on the Falcons than Brady.
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im not saying he is bad, in fact i thnk he is the second best in tbhe league.
He's over rated and the 2nd best QB in the league?????
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yes, because, like most quarterbacks he is givin more credit then i believe he deserves. for all those years he had arguably the best wr core and one of the best lines in the NFL and everyone said that he was possibly if not the greatest qb ever. he is a very good qb but most nfl qbs can find someone if givin time, which manning consistanly has, especially when you have the likes of marvin harrison and reggie wayne as receivers. but i did like the argument of who would do better on the falcons. honestly, i cant say, as that is an impossible question, but personally i think brady would, and thats all im really saying. it is clearly impossible to tell and stats can pretty much be thrown out as both brady and manning put up unbelievable stats year in and year out, but statictically speaking, the first year brady had wr's as good as harrison and wayne he broke the td record.
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yes, because, like most quarterbacks he is givin more credit then i believe he deserves. for all those years he had arguably the best wr core and one of the best lines in the NFL and everyone said that he was possibly if not the greatest qb ever. he is a very good qb but most nfl qbs can find someone if givin time, which manning consistanly has, especially when you have the likes of marvin harrison and reggie wayne as receivers. but i did like the argument of who would do better on the falcons. honestly, i cant say, as that is an impossible question, but personally i think brady would, and thats all im really saying. it is clearly impossible to tell and stats can pretty much be thrown out as both brady and manning put up unbelievable stats year in and year out, but statictically speaking, the first year brady had wr's as good as harrison and wayne he broke the td record.
I know where you are coming from with this because I generally agree but both Peyton and Tom deserve that credit. If that is the reason Peyton is overrated than Tom Brady really should be overrated as well because he has always had a great line in front of him and he did not do it alone.
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yes, because, like most quarterbacks he is givin more credit then i believe he deserves.
He's gone to the Pro Bowl how many times? You don't go there consistently if you aren't good.

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for all those years he had arguably the best wr core and one of the best lines in the NFL and everyone said that he was possibly if not the greatest qb ever.
Argueably, yes. But Peyton has also called the right plays on the fly enough to let the offensive line and the wide receivers look better than they actually are, argueably.

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he is a very good qb but most nfl qbs can find someone if givin time, which manning consistanly has, especially when you have the likes of marvin harrison and reggie wayne as receivers.
Ofcourse, if a QB has all day, he's gonna find targets. Manning apparently has all day because he does score a lot of touchdowns.

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but i did like the argument of who would do better on the falcons. honestly, i cant say, as that is an impossible question, but personally i think brady would, and thats all im really saying.
Is that really all you are saying? Impossible questions shouldn't have answers.

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it is clearly impossible to tell and stats can pretty much be thrown out as both brady and manning put up unbelievable stats year in and year out, but statictically speaking, the first year brady had wr's as good as harrison and wayne he broke the td record.
6 games against the AFC East will do that for ya.
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but the colts spend 70% of their payrool on offense so he should have more playmakers on his side then other qb's
Actually.. Its 57%.. With most of that going to Manning and Harrison. If you want to make yourself look stupid at least get your facts straight.
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Brady also had a very good d helping him out when he took over with the Pats, Manning on the other hand never really had a defense up untill the past two or three years.
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The Dallas Cowboys who sent 13 players to the Pro-Bowl last year..

Have 2 of the top 50 players in the league..

Jason Witten not being on this list at all shows it is a joke..

The end.
Btw, just throwing this out there, if you read the list, the guy isn't a cowboys fan. So, I don't think he is being unbiased.
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