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Madden 2008 to make fans happy?

April 27, 2007 - Let's get it out of the way now. Madden NFL 07 was a disappointment, pure and simple. With an exclusive NFL license as well as the power of the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, there's no reason why this "next-gen" Madden shouldn't have blown football fans away as one of the greatest sports gaming experiences of all time. That's what we expect when we fork over the dough for high-priced consoles and a $59.99 game. As the only NFL sim on the market, that's what we deserve.

With Madden NFL 08, that's what we're going to get. Or at least that's the lofty goal that developer EA Tiburon has set for its flagship franchise, set to release this summer. With a difficult console transition finally out of the way, Tiburon head man Steve Chiang said there are no more excuses with Madden. There will only be results. After visiting Tiburon to take an early peek at Madden 08, we're starting to believe him.

The major focus, as it should be, is on gameplay. Remember that old "If it's in the game, it's in the game" line? Tiburon is taking that to heart. If it's on the field -- laterals, gang tackles, diving catches, strips, shutdown corners, hurdles -- it's in Madden, said producer Ian Cummings. His vision? Pure dynamic gameplay. You control the animations -- the animations don't control you. You can see what Cummings has to say in our exclusive video interview.


Midair Collisions
A quarterback lofts a pass to a streaking receiver that is well covered. The receiver jumps and extends his arms to receive the ball just as the corner buries his helmet into his ribcage. The receiver is upended and falls on his back while the ball bounces into the hands of the safety creeping over to help. If you're going to expose yourself in traffic, expect to get hit. We can see the alligator arms growing now.


Big Time Catches
To balance these big hits in the secondary, EA has made star receivers play like, you know, stars. Guys like Larry Fitzgerald are going to go up and get the ball and they're going to take the hit. What's more, you'll see them reaching out for one-handed grabs and leaping into the end zone for six. That's not to say a good corner isn't going to shut down some of these plays. But a scrub DB? "He's toast," Cummings said.

To do this, EA had to better emphasize the roles receivers play by looking at situational awareness and catch-in-traffic ratings. So expect to see a big difference with possession guys like Keyshawn Johnson and showboats like Terrell Owens. Johnson won't stretch the D, but he will do the little things -- in the end zone on a timing patter, he'll catch the ball with his hands and fall right to the turf to avoid the hit and secure the football. Along with highlight catches, you can also trigger possession catches that ensure you catch the ball, get the feet down and tuck it away safely at the expense of some speed running after the catch.


Hurdles

A few years ago, players were able to cheat with the hurdle button to escape tackles. The easy solution was simply to remove hurdles. They're back in 08, and a great tool for ball carriers looking to evade tacklers going for the knees. On the flip side of that coin, you are exposed in the air, as we saw in this video:

LaDainian Tomlinson takes a pitch and sweeps right. As a linebacker bears down, LT hurdles. Bad move. In the air, LT is unprotected. The LB takes his legs out from under him and LT flips over, fumbling the ball toward the sideline. "If a guy is running at you and you jump at him, you're dead," said Cummings. "We emulated that."




Hitstick 2.0

If LT is going to hurdle to avoid a tackle, you have to be able to answer on the defensive side of the ball. Enter Hitstick 2.0. This will allow you to tackle high or low by flicking up or down on the right stick, respectively. This opens the door for all kinds of possibilities.

If you're an undersized corner and Lorenzo Neal is barreling toward you, you better take out his knees at risk of getting trucked. If it's Warrick Dunn dancing toward you, on the other hand, you may want to hold off on the hit stick altogether at the risk of losing your shoes. But if you're Zach Thomas and the situation is right, a high tackle is going to ring some bells.


Gang Tackles
We saw a bit of gang tackling last year on the PS3, but this year the feature looks to be fully fleshed out. Cummings said with confidence that it's "the best gang-tackling engine ever created," a bold statement considering the old 2K franchise. But consider this:

You can stand a guy up and come in with a linebacker to clean house. Yeah, it's been done before. But from here, Cummings said you can add on dynamically at any point. So maybe it takes two, three, four guys to haul Larry Johnson to the ground. Or if you're running in with a linebacker, you can actually knock the other defenders off the ball carrier with a poorly-aimed hit. Or blockers can come in and try to knock defenders off. Or you can try to strip the ball. A runner can cover it up. The list just keeps going.


The Line of Scrimmage
EA enlisted an engineer that played offensive line in college and the Canadian Football League to design a new blocking scheme. This season you'll see double teams, stretch blocking and linemen extending to the second level. A lot more holes will open up this year and you'll need to follow the game plan to take advantage.

For running backs, that means reading and following blocks. Of course, a few gargantuan defensive tackles can ruin your trap play faster than you can say Corey Simon, so it's important to be able to improvise. Last season if a hole didn't open up, a back would simply run in place behind a lineman-- ice skating as it's known in the biz. This year, big backs will push the pile and force their blockers forward. Smaller backs like Reggie Bush will hesitate behind the line, waiting for an opening to develop before bouncing outside. Both moves are context-sensitive and automatic when you run into a blocker.


Fatigue
Guess what? Temperature and location play a factor in a football game. If you're a Green Bay Packer playing at Dolphin Stadium in September, you're going to feel the heat while the Dolphins are well-adjusted. And don't start on the Dolphins playing in Foxborough in December. Weather will play into the home-field advantage next season.

But fatigue is caused by a lot more than a hot day. Consider this: If Reggie Bush scampers left, then right, then backward, then left and right again and finally into the end zone as only Reggie Bush can, he's going to be tired at the end of the run. In Madden, you'll notice him slowing and, with a different set of running animations, you will see that Bush is gassed. But really, does that guy ever get tired?

For those of you that enjoy sprinting from sideline to sideline with Michael Vick, it's time to get a new strategy. Then again, the defense will tire too...

After a play, you won't see the same canned animations of 11 players jogging back to a huddle in unison. Players will huff and puff with their hands on their hips, longing for the oxygen tank on the sidelines. This will add a new dimension to clock management as you can't simply run Hail Mary after Hail Mary with a no-huddle offense. Those long patterns (and the jog back to the line) take a heavy toll. Instead, you'll need to complete a pass and -- dare I say it -- spike the ball to stop the clock. Just waiting a few extra seconds to snap the ball will have an effect.

Celebrate Good Times, C'mon!
After all these amazing plays, you have to leave a little room for some player celebrations. Forget about those sluggish cutscenes and shots of the stands from last year. If you blow up a play on defense, a teammate will run over, pick you up off the ground, give you a slap on the helmet and a quick, "Hell yeah!" and jog back to the huddle. This all runs within the game engine and helps keep the action flowing smoothly -- a natural problem in football games.

After scores, keep your eyes peeled for signature celebrations like Chad Johnson's river dance, Donte Hall's X and Rex Grossman's gator chomp. EA already has at least 60 celebrations in the game, although we don't know yet if you'll be able to choose one for yourself after a score.

Madden's new moves are made possible to a new animation system borrowed from the FIFA franchise and NBA Street Homecourt. The goal is to make players move as realistically as possible. Instead of turning in a lazy arc, players are going to plant their feet, drop their shoulder and make cuts. We watched as LT hit a hole hard and made decisive cuts through the second level to rip off a big gain. It's also important to note that these cuts are quick -- in FIFA, players would often step in the bucket and a foot plant would slow players down.

As for AI, EA wants star players to play like star players. Peyton Manning is going to pick a part a defense, call audibles and shift his team at the line. On the flip side, a QB like Rex Grossman is going to be inconsistent. Cornerbacks like Champ Bailey are going to shut down an entire side of the football field. You've never feared a cornerback before in Madden, but that's about to change. EA is also rewriting the defensive zone AI to eliminate money plays, especially deep balls and corner routes.

As such, look for matchups to play a more important factor in 08. Taller receivers will take advantage of small DBs on fade routes. A tight end like Antonio Gates split out wide will burn a slow linebacker trying to play man coverage. EA is trying to emphasize the chess match that is the gridiron on any given Sunday. And don't forget about the defensive side of the ball. If you think you can roll out with a QB right toward a healthy Jevon Kearse without throwing out a double team, you got another thing coming.

And finally, EA is bringing back the features that never made the jump from current-gen Madden like owner mode, defensive hot routes and classic rosters. The stellar Superstar mode returns, as well as the Hall of Fame, although EA is missing a few notable players like Montana, Marino and Rice that make appearances in All Pro Football 2K8. Is it a coincidence that Madden 08 will be so feature-rich now that 2K is back in the game? Probably not, and that's a good thing as EA has yet another incentive to make the best football game on the market.

Whatever the motivation, it's clear that Cummings and the rest of the development team care about Madden 08, gushing that this year will be the biggest jump in quality over the previous version that we've ever seen. But as the only NFL sim out there, that's what we deserve.

Click the video link below for an exclusive video interview with Cummings and stay tuned for more Madden coverage as we check out player ratings, Superstar mode and Owner mode.


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ok, alot of good information there....seems like the next gen will be the real deal....

I just hope the same for the regular xbox...
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Man! You have no idea just from this little interview how much I can't wait for this game.

Great job with the heads up Cash, I (and we all I'm sure) appreciate it.

GREAT read.
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So all this stuff just going to be in next-gen? If so, I might have to get myself a 360 or PS3 with some of the cash I'll be getting from my new job (doing a 16 month co-op at IBM)

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Yeah, just finished watching the video as well.

I cannot wait now. I'll have to work some overtime hours at work, which are easy enough to grab, to pick me up at copy!

They're taking pre-orders now on the easports page. I want to hurry and get my pre-order in lol.
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Wow, great information. Seems like they are making a lot of improvements. Now I really can't wait for this game to come out!
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1) superstar mode on draft i want to be waiting in the green room, and when my player get called walk on stage with team hat and jersey. draft day is the most special day of you life lets make it that. 2) superstar mode bigger contracts and the agent should play bigger role, i want to be able to buy cars houses and other things in different cites, i want to feel like nfl player 3) make player that you play with in ncaa campus legend transfer to superstar mode, more combine workouts, bigger spring camp, more things to do in off season. 4) USING ESPN - use espn like 2k did and bring back gamebreak. draft
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Just picked up my brand new 55" high def plasma flat panel, going to buy a new PS3....game better make it worth my while...
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Just picked up my brand new 55" high def plasma flat panel, going to buy a new PS3....game better make it worth my while...
You LUCKY SOB, lol. I have a 55" Toshiba HD Components TV. Its not flat panel or anything but it has the components for better picture quality but not actually HD. I baught it from the place I work though for only $35, lol, so I don't really mind it works.

There is an amazingly nice like 55" LG HD Flat Panel TV in here right now I have to test later on, I want to try to buy it if the price doesn't go to high (which I'm predicting it goes upwards of like $750 so that'll be to high for me).
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lmao, wish I'd gotten deal like that...mine is a Samsung that was on sale for $1800...
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JESUS CHRIST! Where does he work, I need a job there lol.

I'm goingi to look at one of these two HD flat panel's that came in. One is an LG 41" and one is a Sanyo 47". The Sanyo is like trashed on the back side, the metal paneling and stuff, so I'm hoping that keeps people away from it so I can buy it
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now i gotta get a PS3, cause i already got the 52" hd, and i wanna play this sweet game
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Talking Wow!!!!

It's about time somebody talked about the new improvements for Madden 08 and re-emphasize how horrible the gameplay for the next gen sytems were for Madden 07. This was a great thread. I'm a Madden-holic and I use to play 24/7 on Ps2 online before I came out here to Iraq for a year. I tried playing it on Ps3 and X-Box 360 and I almost threw up. I've been out here for 4 months now and I was fiending for a thread like this. I wish 08 lives up to the hype.
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I just read this. I'm actually really leaning towards next gen now.
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Old thread I know but I absolutely loved it, being a broncos fan means finally having people respect champ bailey and his entire side of the field, no more bombs to tall receivers every second throw will make for a much more fun, realistic game. My question is this, will these next gen features also make the leap to the PC version of madden? I havent bought a PS3 yet and dont plan to until a few amazing games (and maybe a mod chip :P) are made available. I buy madden for the PC every year because simply put up until the PS3 and 360 came out, the graphics card in my computer far surpasses that of the ps2/xbox.....wondering if the PC version will be up to par or will be a watered down version of the game...
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