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Just a few things.

I would like to see a physics engine that exceeds that of any football game out there. I myself like to make it a little fantasy every now and then and create some super-human players like a running back that weights 300Ibs of solid muscle with a 4.08 40 time. The fact is it doesn't matter if he weights 200 or 400 because I still see 170Ibs of corner back or Free Safety that somehow makes an open field tackle square up. It isn't going to happy my friend. That’s like a semi hitting a Geo Metro and the Geo knocks the holy hell out of that Kensworth. I've also created some 400Ibs Linebackers with 99attrib. of everything even speed and I went into a game, no lie, I sacked my opposing Q.B. 5 times with some square solid hits and my 400Ibs of linebacker gets injured. Now something tells me the physics engine isn't totally accurate.
I also would like to see players who have injuries for example a fractured thumb and etc. to have on cast and bandages. It would be realistic to have player’s every now and then miss a game because of being sick aswell.
This game lacks breath taking hits that gets the crowd into the game. I want see some better hits and more accurate injures that go along with those bad *** helmet to helmet collisions or mid-air collisions that sends a player summer salting through the air and being knocked out, oh yeah while the camera zooms in for a slowmothing in your face shot. Sounds like alot but don't kid yourself it's possible. Maybe once in a and every blue moon I want to see a helmet busted up from a hit or something and I want to see a mouth piece being knocked out of some guys mouth.
While all of this is taking place where is the commentary? It’s practically the same old lines from the previous year with some new ones mixed in, the half-time is lame, and the commentary’s just don’t really get into the action when I take my Texas Southern team and I’m beating the #1 team with 1 minute left to go in the game. When you have completed the game it’s almost exactly the same as 2003’s. I hate when I pump up the crowd and i have to keep doing it because they start to get quite and on big plays they need to get loud and stay loud.
That’s just a few of many improvements I have thought of.
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Yeah but it wouldn't really be fair to have that big of a running back. If we want it to work like that then it has to go both ways.
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Thats funny

Your right it wouldn't exactly be fair but like i said "Fantasy". I know everybody creates this super human player to play with just for fun. Your right for a 300 pound running back that runs a 4.08 would be very scary by god he better knock somebodys head off when he hits them. Segas ESPN football "2K4" did a ok job. I created a 300 pounder there and i ran a few more people over then i did with a 200 pounder.

It would be cool if you could add some more attribs like "Experince" because the more you play somebody the more experince he will have.
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Inturn the more exp the more better he will do in a big game and ect.
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About the injuries, I would like to see some breath getting knocked out of some players from a hard hit or something and the Announcers pick it up and let you know that they have to sit out for a play or 2 like in real life. Something that would happen often if you play like me and you put your recievers in a situation where you know they will be hit from the side and ect as soon as they catch the ball. I see it happen every week in a football.
They have the "Player Maker" Meter, well what about "The Hurt" meter or something simular to that. For example you have a defensive end who keeps getting to the quator back and laying him out as he releases the ball into the air and say he keeps on busting trough and laying the QB on the ground. Well eventually you have Put "The Hurt" on that player and if it keeps it up the changes of injury goes way up. It could be put on wide recievers and such too for getting knocked the hell out of on a pass play and ect. "The Hurt" Meter would be pretty sweet. Just gives you more reasons to bust the qb for a "Roughing the Passer" lol if you know what I mean.
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Also with "THE HURT" meter if it's just one player busting through and busting up people then that player starts to pay more attention to where that one guy is and it gets him off his game and some bad choices are made. Thats if it's the QB who has "THE HURT" put on him. Doesn't just have to be on one person but everybody in some since. Special teams there are many good hits and could mess someone up if your trying to lol.
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Re: Thats funny

Dude, you really only needed one post for all of that...

Also, the wind does get knocked out sometimes. But as for the hurt meter I think sumthin like that would be cool. It gets gay when you hit a guy 20 times in a game and he never gets hurt.
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ZV is right.. Its not realistic to have a 400 lb RB with a 99 speed and 99 brktkl but if I make him he better run over champ bailey like the little byatch he is...

Make the physics realistic even if I make a guy that isn't...


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If you want the physics like that then they won't let you make a RB over 200 and all that stuff. If you make those players and you STILL can't win, then you're a pretty sad Madden player.
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If you want the physics like that then they won't let you make a RB over 200 and all that stuff. If you make those players and you STILL can't win, then you're a pretty sad Madden player.
isnt this ncaa football forum?
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I believe it pertains to both games??

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If you want the physics like that then they won't let you make a RB over 200 and all that stuff. If you make those players and you STILL can't win, then you're a pretty sad Madden player.
This has nothing to do with the fact that they should make the physics better... AND why not I bought the game why can't I make a 400 lb back and run everyone over.. ITS A GAME.. and it would be funny...
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Well if you really wanna do that then you can, but it would be really boring if you ask me.
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I don't.. but the point is if you do the physics should be realistic...
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If they cant have the players names, the should have the coaches names and how they look
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I don't.. but the point is if you do the physics should be realistic...
You're not making sense. You want an unrealistic physical thing to happen with physical results. I don't think it works like that.
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No I am making perfect sense...

I want something that is "unlikely to happen" to work realistically.

Ok it is "unlikely" that I could pass for 1000 yards a game with a QB but if I did realistically he better be the darn MVP.. get it?

Ok it is "unlikely" to have a 400 lb RB with a 99 speed and 99 brktckl..

But if I did and he hits a darn 180 lb cb the CB better get crumpled and the RB goes through him...

I don't want to put anyone down on this boards, but you are the one that does not get it...

We are asking for realistic physics.. that has nothing to do with weather or not we are made to make realistic players...
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And to make it more clear... It may be unrealistic to have a 400 lb running back with a 99 speed.. but the game allows you to do that... To put it in realistic terms for you...

It would be like having a 7 year old 72 lb kid trying to tackle Jamal Lewis...

What would happen?
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I know that, but my point is if we're gonna do that then make it so 400 lbs of running back has to be slow to make it more fair.
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Fair for who? Ok if someone was using this created player in online play or against other people then thats wrong.. should not be allowed.. in fact no created players should be allowed in either situation..

But if I want to make him and play against the computer with him, I paid for the game, I should be able to...
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Ok, well if that's the way you want it then go ahead and run over people and get bored of the game after a week.
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Dude, are you braindead? I said.. I wouldn't do it.. BUT IF I DID..

The physics should be realistic...
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I'm not braindead, I'm not saying you personally, I'm addressing everyone as YOU.

You keep repeating yourself. "The physics should be realistic." I KNOW! REALISTIC PHYSICS = NO 400 POUND RUNNING BACKS RUNNING THE 40 IN 4 SECONDS.
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beleive it or not it could be possible for a 400 pound running back to run a 4.26 40 which is about what a 99 speed... not 4 sec 40..

It is extremely unlikely and not highly probable but it would not break the laws of physics...

People used to think the world was flat and a sub 4 minute mile was impossible too..



Having said all that I would now like to specify what I think we meant be realistic physics... we meant we wanted it to be realistic during player collissions. Which has nothing to do with weather or not I can make a fantasy player that weighs 400 lbs and has a 99 speed...


You have no valid point.. you are saying madden should not allow you to make the 400 pound RB with 99 speed.. which is your opinion.. what I am saying is that IT WILL LET YOU and when I make him and run and hit a 170 lb cb THAT COLLISSION should be realistic.
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i understand where all of this is coming from. just read the book misery by stephen king and you will understand...
some want the game not realistic, but fair. some want to make the game whatever they want it to do. its their choice to make a 99spd 400lb runningback although it isnt neccesarily fair....

peace people i understand i make no sense just read the stupid book and u can interperet me....
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So you're saying a 400 pound man is able to run a 4 second 40? Yeah right.
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I'm saying the day could come... It would not be impossible just improbable..


I would also like to appologize for calling your braindead..

that was uncalled for...




The point you are argueing is that there is no such thing as a 400lb man running that fast, and I agree (at this point in time).. nobody is argueing with you that point.


The point we are making is that the physics are not realistic.. and they need to be. using a 400 lb running back as an example is going to extremes, to prove a point, less extreme would be me playing my 240 lb linebacker with an 88 speed and hitting a 176 lb running back from the side going full speed, getting stiff arms and falling flat on my back... thats unrealistic physics..

You are argueing a point that is irrelavent and nobody is argueing against you with it. But if you are trying to say that the physics in the game could not be more realistic, then you are wrong.
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Okay, that makes more sense. The physics in the game could be a lot better, but sometimes stuff like that does happen. It should still happen, just not as frequently.
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You guys are missing the point, an unrealistic physics engine means that there is no difference between a 180 lb. running back and a 240 lb. running back in the game, regardless of speed, there should definately be a difference in these two guys' ability to bowl over linebackers.
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