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Old 04-20-2004
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Ray Lewis Vs Brian Urlacher.....

If you had to make a choice as to who who was the best Middle linebacker, who would it be. Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher. Or this question could be asked another way. If you were starting a franchise, and you had first pick between these two in a fantasy draft, who would it be??????
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Ray Lewis. He is a beast, hands down. Urlacher can be good but is far too inconsistent for me. You could also argue that Lewis is surrounded by talent and Urlacher lacks a good supporting cast, but look at what Ray Lewis has done as an individual.

If I were running to the sideline after receiving a toss pass and I knew one of the linebackers were after me, I would fear for my life if I saw Ray Lewis break free from my blockers.
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I have to go with the obvious here. Ray Lewis. He is my favorite player along with L.Tomlinson. Although he may not be as fast as Urlacher, he has better judgement, and he anticipates the runningbacks moves better. One of the key things I think that makes him stand above Urlacher is the fact that Ray Lewis is a natural Linebacker. Urlacher played saftey in college. Ray Lewis played linebacker at Miami, and he became know as the best tackler in the NFL.... Hands down, its gotta be RAY LEWIS!!!!!!!!!! Dont forget, Defensive Player of The Year, Superbowl MVP, Superbowl Champion.....
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In real life I would have to take Ray Lewis no doubt but since this is Madden Urlacher would fit in perfectly, with his speed he can make all the plays and even cover & spy speedy QB's & RB's
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It depends..........of course I am goin to pick Urlacher. also if you are playing franchise you get more of a life out of Urlacher and i think he is better at forcing turnovers, like ints or fumbles........

my 2 cents
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Since this is a madden discussion I will go from madden 2004 and when I play linebacker I need SPEED.. So I have to go with Urlacher...

Real life though it is Ray Lewis no doubt
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this is what i got off of www.brianurlacher.com jsut for mr. sickwithvick :
About Brian

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Became New Mexico’s first first-round pick since Robin Cole was drafted by Pittsburgh in 1977 … Only second defensive player in past seven drafts chosen in first round by Bears (Walt Harris in 1996) … Versatile player who played outside linebacker and safety on defense, receiver on offense and return specialist … Two-year starter for Lobos who finished career third on school’s all-time tackling charts with 442 stops … Also had three interceptions, 11 sacks and caused 11 fumbles … .Averaged 18.8 yards on five kickoff returns, 15.1 yards on 13 punt returns … .Six of seven catches resulted in touchdowns … As a senior, earned First-team all-America selection by Walter Camp, Football Writers Association of America and Associated Press; second-team choice by Sporting News and Football News … All-Mountain Conference first-team and Player of Year choice … One of three finalists for the Jim Thorpe Award, given to the top defensive back in college football … First-team all-Mountain West selection as a junior when he started every game at the "Lobos'" back (safety) position and led entire nation with school-record 178 tackles......majored in criminology.

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All-state selection as receiver and safety at Lovington (NM) High School … Led club to 14-0 record and state title as senior … Caught 61 passes for 15 TDs; also returned four punts and two kickoffs for TDs; two rushing TDs … Also all-district in basketball … Active supporter of the Special Olympics in the Chicagoland area and in his home state of New Mexico… He and wife Laurie have one daughter, Pamela.


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Those are good stats, but lets be honest here. Your talking about New Mexico State. How many blue chip recruits do they get a year. One, two at the most. The fact is that if Brian Urlacher would have went to FSU, Miami, USC, he would not had the opputunity to play all those positons. There are hundereds of athletes that come into big universities that could do that, but they don't have to because the talent level is larger than opposed to New Mexico St.
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HE LIVES IN NEW MEXICO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there are plenty of people who go to college near home for reasons of their own..im sure his were good and all. you can't say he didn't put a surge into my dwindling bears and you can't say that he isn't a pro bowl caliber football player. he may not have the hardware that ray lewis has but if the bears can spend their money more wisely then signing another kordell stewart then things will be better and he will have a chance for his hardware.
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Ray Lewis hands down, he's the best.
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I have to agree about that, but I thought it was pretty funny when I saw Paris Hilton up in Urlacher's suite box thing.
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I know he's not mentioned but I think LaVar Arrington is on of the the best LB's on the game...maybe just cuz I play with the Skins alot I don't know... but this guy makes plenty of big plays and is good at injuring & stripping the QB on sacks. real fast too
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Yeah, LaVar is good, but I don't think he is better than Urlacher or Lewis. And LaVar is WAY overpaid.
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If you had to make a choice as to who who was the best Middle linebacker
Part of the reason Lavar never got brought up is probably that the discussion was about middle linebackers..
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yes, its an ongoing debate between myself and sickwithvick.
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In real Life, Lewis hands down. I seen him hit people so hard, that even MY FEELINGS were hurt. In madden 2004, you can argue that Urlacher has more speed, but since i like to use my LB anyways you can make any pleyer better by using him yourself. I pratically made my RLB Marlon Greenwood from Miami a star because i let Zach Thomas and Junior Seau do their thing. So its a toss up for the game, real life tho, hands down LEWIS!
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I would pick Ray Lewis anyday he is alot bigger and stronger and also fast and good anywhere
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they do have the point about the speed, but again, you can make any player good if you use him yourself.
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Yep, but you can;t make them faster..
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As much as I hate the felon (Oh, I'm sorry... those charges were dropped... my bad), I'd have to go with Lewis. He is a freakin' monster.
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I thought it was a felony on Jamal Lewis, not Ray Lewis.
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Yea Ry Lewis was charged with MURDER.
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Crap, I didn't hear about that.
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It was a few years ago. He was acquitted though and I think someone else took the fall.
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Ray Lewis Turned States evidence, then he plea bargained, and his cohorts eventually took the fall
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He's still a monster. I remember seeing that game where the other team missed a FG at the end of regulation and the Ravens ran it back for a TD and Ray Lewis set the whole thing up with that ferocious hit he laid on whoever that was. I jumped out of my seat when i saw that hit. They better mold the new hits in Madden 2005 into Lewis type hits..... j/k ... if they did everyone would be injured.
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Oooh man I remember that one too... I think McAlister caught it against the Broncos, ran 108 yards. The only reason I remember that play is because I saw Lewis smack someone off his feet... Oh **** that was amazing. I loved how they kept showing it on replay, it got better every time.
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That hit was sick..... and ESPN just kept showing it and showing it and showing it over and over again....Talk about pouring salt in the wound...then the guy Ray Lewis hit tried to act like it didn't bother him in an interview.... yeah right....
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great tackle...lewis no doubt what a beast, he is the tackler everyone aspires to be.
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again..... he hits so hard, then even your feelings get hurt
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