back to the basics

[korvertime]

Is anyone else totally depressed when they draft a rookie and play all their games for their career, only to see him retire and be forgotten?

Well I propose the game keeps track of every current and future player's stats (at least a minimum ex: quarterbacks must throw 100 td's to be in career stats category) so then career milestones and super bowl wins are relevant and are not forgotten.

Also, deeper free agency pools, as well as continuous free agency after the season-not just a 14 day simulator.

I would also like to see players or coaches who retire to be able to be coaxed out of retirement. The player/coach can have certain stipulations (good team/role with team/money) in their personality/attitude and choose to play or stay retired depending on what you have to offer and how good your team is.

Also, within the free agent pool, include players who may have not played in a while, or maybe even are retired, so that they may be lured out of retirement.

For example, Drew Bledsoe and Jake Plummer are both unofficially retired, but literally are free agents who could come back at any time. Or other smaller known random players that are playing in other leagues or could make possible comebacks. (Eric Crouch, Brock Forsey, maybe even Michael Vick) You could have a little "buy off the authorities" option.

Heck, while we're at it, why don't we have a section in the franchise mode call "clean-up". It can replace the current "roster management" help guide and suggest to you, the owner, which poor mannered players to cut or trade, whether it be violence, sexual, or distraction related.

Also, on the same note, bring back the days of Madden 03. Remember when getting all those tokens to unveil the Madden Cards meant something? I want to be able to unlock stuff worth mentioning. Give me my Troy Aikman's, Dan Marino's, and Steve Largent's back. Maybe unlock uniforms, player tv advertisements, VIP entrance into player locker room, whatever...

How has no one said this one? What's with not getting the photos for all the rookies? Any guy drafted in the first four rounds deserves a picture, and the rest would be awesome, too.

More hairstyles. Instead of the lame 135 face possibilities, go take 50 pictures of 50 people, heck, make it 135 people-instead. Let the user look through the pictures and use them as photos for their players. This could also be applied to drafting.

Why not use actual college prospects in each year's draft? (obviously would only be possible for the first 4 seasons of franchise mode) pictures, stats, etc.

Make it extremely difficult for rookies to perform on a consistent and effective basis, based on their skill level and position. Receivers naturally take more time to grow, as well as rookie quarterbacks are erratic and streaky.

Make home field advantage during regular season and playoffs mean something. The Colts almost never lose at home. Make me believe that when I travel into Indy I better be brining my A game with a completely healthy team.

Make speed count in the game. If my receiver is running like Antonio Freeman in his last season, he should never catch a ball. Well, it'd be difficult as hell for him to if Champ Bailey were covering him.

If a receiver is an infamous ball dropper, make it evident why.

Seperate players by their tendencies and personalities. This could be an upgrade for the "Roles" section.

For example, Peyton Manning is strict, firm, and robotic/routine in his methods. Brett Favre jumps all over the field when he scores. Packer players do the Lambeau leap. TO and Chad Johnson run their mouths, and Bill Belicheck is rigid, more than other coaches.

Every running back should not run the same.

The catches should vary.

More real-life passing situations, near miss sacks/shake-off/fumbles.

Have the refs positively knowing what they're talking about. We see our real life teams get screwed over all the time. We don't need it in the digital world, too.

Any player should be able to switch to ANY position. This isn't basketball. We're not making 5'11 guards into centers. Besides, we already have the ability to beef up all attributes ad adjust height, weight, and size.

Players who can play multiple positions should always be able to substitute to the other position.

Antwan Randle El can return kicks, do reverses, play receiver, and throw touchdowns. He can even hold for field goals.

Point being, attributes should be as accurate as possible, each real life ability and skill accounted for.

Injury and Toughness should be more closely looked at. A guy who gets dinged up all the time can be 99 touch, but if he's always worrying about getting tid-bit injuries he should have an injury in the 70's. Also, with injuries, there should not be an automatic concrete time table for returns. Have the ability to rush back fro injury, it taking longer than expected to heal, or the decision to put a player on IR versus waiting for a second diagnosis or recovery in time to play later in the season.

Change in environment for post season a must. More announcers, audio and video that is not included in any other mode, be it franchise or exhibition.

I have more, but my brain is sick from the fact that this may never be read or replied about. Well, they're good ideas. I know it. You know it. Now let's have someone do something about it.

-Kevin

[cashpath]

Originally Posted by korvertime

Is anyone else totally depressed when they draft a rookie and play all their games for their career, only to see him retire and be forgotten?

Not really but a Hall of Fame would be an ok addition.

Well I propose the game keeps track of every current and future player's stats (at least a minimum ex: quarterbacks must throw 100 td's to be in career stats category) so then career milestones and super bowl wins are relevant and are not forgotten.

Yeah that would be cool. Not important though.

Also, deeper free agency pools, as well as continuous free agency after the season-not just a 14 day simulator.

Maybe they need more free agents.. but the free agency period does continue.. You can sign a free agent anytime during the season and so does the CPU

I would also like to see players or coaches who retire to be able to be coaxed out of retirement. The player/coach can have certain stipulations (good team/role with team/money) in their personality/attitude and choose to play or stay retired depending on what you have to offer and how good your team is.

Also, within the free agent pool, include players who may have not played in a while, or maybe even are retired, so that they may be lured out of retirement.

Would be ok if done correctly

For example, Drew Bledsoe and Jake Plummer are both unofficially retired, but literally are free agents who could come back at any time. Or other smaller known random players that are playing in other leagues or could make possible comebacks. (Eric Crouch, Brock Forsey, maybe even Michael Vick) You could have a little "buy off the authorities" option.

Heck, while we're at it, why don't we have a section in the franchise mode call "clean-up". It can replace the current "roster management" help guide and suggest to you, the owner, which poor mannered players to cut or trade, whether it be violence, sexual, or distraction related.

Don't hold your breath.. It's NEVER going to happen in a game that the NFL puts its stamp on. They want to hide that sort of thing and act like it doesn't happen. So you might as well forget it ever happening.

Also, on the same note, bring back the days of Madden 03. Remember when getting all those tokens to unveil the Madden Cards meant something? I want to be able to unlock stuff worth mentioning. Give me my Troy Aikman's, Dan Marino's, and Steve Largent's back. Maybe unlock uniforms, player tv advertisements, VIP entrance into player locker room, whatever...

They got rid of these because 99.9% of madden players dont care about them and think they are stupid. I finally met someone in the .1% lol.

How has no one said this one? What's with not getting the photos for all the rookies? Any guy drafted in the first four rounds deserves a picture, and the rest would be awesome, too.

There are guys that aren't rookies that don't have pictures too. Basically the problem is time. The game comes out in August. That means its being actually physically made in July. With the draft in April its hard for EA to get to those guys to get thier photos.

More hairstyles. Instead of the lame 135 face possibilities, go take 50 pictures of 50 people, heck, make it 135 people-instead. Let the user look through the pictures and use them as photos for their players. This could also be applied to drafting.

Ok... not something I really care about.. but..

Why not use actual college prospects in each year's draft? (obviously would only be possible for the first 4 seasons of franchise mode) pictures, stats, etc.

Because they are considered Amatuer athletes and cannot be used in something that makes money. I thought everyone knew this already. Same reason thier names aren't in NCAA football.. duh.

Make it extremely difficult for rookies to perform on a consistent and effective basis, based on their skill level and position. Receivers naturally take more time to grow, as well as rookie quarterbacks are erratic and streaky.

This is handled well with Player Ratings... I guess you are saying Rookies should be rated lower?

Make home field advantage during regular season and playoffs mean something. The Colts almost never lose at home. Make me believe that when I travel into Indy I better be brining my A game with a completely healthy team.

Home field advantage would be nice.

Make speed count in the game. If my receiver is running like Antonio Freeman in his last season, he should never catch a ball. Well, it'd be difficult as hell for him to if Champ Bailey were covering him.

It is.

If a receiver is an infamous ball dropper, make it evident why.

Catch Rating

Seperate players by their tendencies and personalities. This could be an upgrade for the "Roles" section.

For example, Peyton Manning is strict, firm, and robotic/routine in his methods. Brett Favre jumps all over the field when he scores. Packer players do the Lambeau leap. TO and Chad Johnson run their mouths, and Bill Belicheck is rigid, more than other coaches.

Ok.. makes sense.. doubt they put much time into it.. ever.

Every running back should not run the same.

They don't

The catches should vary.

They do

More real-life passing situations, near miss sacks/shake-off/fumbles.

Yeah I agree they need more realistic animations.. they need more every year.

Have the refs positively knowing what they're talking about. We see our real life teams get screwed over all the time. We don't need it in the digital world, too.

Not gunna happen.. a computer can't know what it is talking about.

Any player should be able to switch to ANY position. This isn't basketball. We're not making 5'11 guards into centers. Besides, we already have the ability to beef up all attributes ad adjust height, weight, and size.

So I should be able to make a Kicker a Guard? hmm.. I think he would decline that.. what do you think?

Players who can play multiple positions should always be able to substitute to the other position

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I agree

Antwan Randle El can return kicks, do reverses, play receiver, and throw touchdowns. He can even hold for field goals.

How can you go there and then not say "Make Holding for Field goals matter!" It should be an attribute right? And the ball should be dropped every once in a blue moon.

Point being, attributes should be as accurate as possible, each real life ability and skill accounted for.

Of course.

Injury and Toughness should be more closely looked at. A guy who gets dinged up all the time can be 99 touch, but if he's always worrying about getting tid-bit injuries he should have an injury in the 70's. Also, with injuries, there should not be an automatic concrete time table for returns. Have the ability to rush back fro injury, it taking longer than expected to heal, or the decision to put a player on IR versus waiting for a second diagnosis or recovery in time to play later in the season.

Hmm they had an option to put in injured players.. And sometimes the probable and questionable and doubtful statuses take different amoutns of time to go away.

Anyway..
Injury- Players ability to withstand injury.
Toughness- Players ability to recover from injury.

Change in environment for post season a must. More announcers, audio and video that is not included in any other mode, be it franchise or exhibition.

Yep

I have more, but my brain is sick from the fact that this may never be read or replied about. Well, they're good ideas. I know it. You know it. Now let's have someone do something about it.

-Kevin

Some of them are good ideas.. And now your brain can be healed because it was read and replied to.

[greatone18]

Alot of good ideas. I like the whole thing about luring players/ coaches out of retirement. I think 2k5 did that if Im not mistaking. Just had to give your play alot of moeny tho. I think it be cool if a coach retired and you can give him a front office job like the bIll Parcells in Miami thing. Theres alot of little things they just don't do that would make Madden so much better

[Steelersfan43]

You did have a few good ideas. I liked the thought of players being able to play multiple positions if they do already, I know you did not mention this but maybe if that is put in there rating does not have to go down a lot.

I also liked what you had to say about being able to go after retired players or coaches, but like Cash said I dont think that EA would go into doing something like that.

I know something that I would like for them to do and have for a while is to be able to change a players position for good like moving a undersized DE to a OLB, which I know you can do but you also have to add another DE to you depth chart to make up for the loss and to me it just seems like it ends up being a pain because you have a ton of roster spots taken up by one position.

[Buckeye-masta]

I suppose this is more of a NCAA related suggestion, but I always feel like the draft pool when importing the class is incredibly tiny. It needs an increase. Also, and this will probably never change, but can something be done about the AI? I mean, do something to make decision making more realistic or less predictable. Also, I like the idea of brining back the cards.

I feel that player moral should play a much larger role other than "I don't want to play. This team is lame, but I will still play." This also applies to that one inexplicable player on your roster that YOU REALLY NEED, yet refuses to sign, EVEN THOUGH your throwing the bank at him and your winning plus he's having career seasons (which makes you wonder)...

Also, I want the AI during drafting to be more intelligent and aggressive. EXAMPLE: If Miami has Terrel Owens, Marvin Harrison, and Braylon Edwards, yet they have Michael Shipp as their starting Running back, WHY would Miami draft a receiver? I've seen strange things like this happen.

I want penalties called a little better. I realize phantom pass interference calls are part of the game, but don't you love it when you get tackled and mauled pre-arrival kind of "Blitz" style, and no one calls anything?

I guess my last tidbit here, sacking the quarterback with the DE's, there should be a few special features associated with this to make being a DE a little more fun. The movements and combat between a tackle and an end should be a little more epic, less of this impact-stall-spin garbage. Yawn.

[Steelersfan43]

Originally Posted by Buckeye-masta

I feel that player moral should play a much larger role other than "I don't want to play. This team is lame, but I will still play." This also applies to that one inexplicable player on your roster that YOU REALLY NEED, yet refuses to sign, EVEN THOUGH your throwing the bank at him and your winning plus he's having career seasons (which makes you wonder)...

Also, I want the AI during drafting to be more intelligent and aggressive. EXAMPLE: If Miami has Terrel Owens, Marvin Harrison, and Braylon Edwards, yet they have Michael Shipp as their starting Running back, WHY would Miami draft a receiver? I've seen strange things like this happen.

I want penalties called a little better. I realize phantom pass interference calls are part of the game, but don't you love it when you get tackled and mauled pre-arrival kind of "Blitz" style, and no one calls anything?

I guess my last tidbit here, sacking the quarterback with the DE's, there should be a few special features associated with this to make being a DE a little more fun. The movements and combat between a tackle and an end should be a little more epic, less of this impact-stall-spin garbage. Yawn.

Good call on everything.

I really like the thought of being able to do more with the DE, thats the position I usually play when I play d on Madden so it would be nice to have some new stuff there.

[greatone18]

Heres a penalty they need to fix...clipping.
Now I have gone back and looked at the replay on my clippingas when I can and my guy is always blokcing in the front. I dont know what to think of that one

And why doesw it soemtime give you yards on clipping. Like I was playing my friend and hhe got called clipping and instead of 1st and 20 it was 1st and 5...craziest thing i have ever seen

[cashpath]

If the clipping happens downfield then thats how it works.. just like holding.. It's not a bug its realism.

As for the animation.. thats just a matter of them needing to add more animations.

[tal3nted]

I think some of the picture ideas are good ones. The rookies not having pics is just the NFL, or should i say EA Sports for being lazy. They have all the rookies at the damn combine...perfect opportunity for pictures.

why not do what madden o8 for ps2 does it just gives them a fake picture. The rookies have a pic along wiht everyone you drafted.

[greatone18]

It be fun if Madden went more in depth with the draft...Like have the top 5 guys in the green room and when they are introduced have them come on the stage and shake hands with the coach...Also we need Mel Kiper in the draft just for the fun of it

NFL 2K5 had Mel Kiper giving his best player, I believe his worst player and his sleeper pick...

[Steelersfan43]

Originally Posted by greatone18

It be fun if Madden went more in depth with the draft...Like have the top 5 guys in the green room and when they are introduced have them come on the stage and shake hands with the coach...Also we need Mel Kiper in the draft just for the fun of it

NFL 2K5 had Mel Kiper giving his best player, I believe his worst player and his sleeper pick...

I believe madden at one time did have the best pick thing you are talking about but I could be wrong.

[greatone18]

if they did must have been crappy since i dont remember it.

[Steelersfan43]

Yeah like I said I'm not even to sure if they had it, I know they had a thing where you could look at the guys you scouted and some other stuff on last years version for the ps2 and for the year before that I think as well.

[TheViking88]

Originally Posted by greatone18

And why doesw it soemtime give you yards on clipping. Like I was playing my friend and hhe got called clipping and instead of 1st and 20 it was 1st and 5...craziest thing i have ever seen

stuff like that happens to me all the time when i play, its kinda funny, like the cpu will punt and ill get the ball and it will be like 1st and 11 haha or like i'll run the ball on 1st and 10 and the announcer will say a gain of 5 on the play and then it will be like 2nd and 4 or something like that lol. that probably happens like at least 3 times a game.

haha
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Originally Posted by Steelersfan43

Yeah like I said I'm not even to sure if they had it, I know they had a thing where you could look at the guys you scouted and some other stuff on last years version for the ps2 and for the year before that I think as well.

they should do like what they did in Head Coach, during the draft, it would be cool to look at who your other coaches think you should draft. Like during the draft, you can use the right stick to move left and right and see like your depth chart and free agents available, i just think it would be cool to get some help from your coordinators and maybe even your owner or whatever.

[maddenchamp]

man i pretty much agree with u

[alexander_37]

Originally Posted by cashpath

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Some of them are good ideas.. And now your brain can be healed because it was read and replied to.

his brain must have high toughness but low injury

but seriously i hate all these little nit pickey things whe nthe main focus should be the game play namely blocking needs to improve

spacial awareness issues ( running through other guys and just bad piles where guys get randomly stuck and have seizures or just go through like nothing)

and defensive back play mostly covering receivers gets really awkward at times

im not so much concerned about coaches or retired guys

although i like the weather affects and homefield advantage and roles ideas

one more thing LESS FUMBLES nobody fumbles 2-3 times a game especially runningbacks

oh yah and i like the varying running styles ( you mostly only see different styles in the hall of fame players like wlater payton and sanders seem to have unique tackle breaking animations.)

new tackle animations and cleaning them up are major also