So I think most of us have seen or are in that goallineblitz league thing. It's a cool concept that seems to be catchy for a lot of people.
I made a player and have seen how things are done there.. there is NO DOUBT in my mind I could make something similar (and probably better) here at the board and integrate it to the board.
Our users could use the points they earn on the board the way they use thier 'FLEX' points. And it is something I am giving serious thought into putting the time into building.
IF I do this I would like to get feedback from board members on what they would like to see added, what features they would be interested in and how they would like it to be ran.
Doing this will obviously mean I will not be spending the time it takes me to set it up on our Sim League. But if it is as viral and catchy as thiers is it should also mean we become a much larger community, and I in turn may finally make some sort of income off this place instead of constantly paying to have it here.
And THAT will probably motivate me to get our SIM LEAGUE going again.
So.. what do you guys think? Good idea? Bad Idea?
Open up the think tank.
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Sounds a cool idea, but will it be something that holds our intrest or just crashes and burns? There needs to be an incentive there, I've just gotten bored with goallineblitz already.
Just a thought if it does happen, I've found the way that goallineblitz rates/ranks players very confusing, maybe instead would it be possible to have a rating system more like Madden's
Sounds a cool idea, but will it be something that holds our intrest or just crashes and burns? There needs to be an incentive there, I've just gotten bored with goallineblitz already.
Just a thought if it does happen, I've found the way that goallineblitz rates/ranks players very confusing, maybe instead would it be possible to have a rating system more like Madden's
And that's a damn fine first post... Yes.. Be critical of the idea and by all means... Add to what could make the thing better, if you believe we should do this.
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I think it's a great idea. One big difference I think would be best would be instead of just having the same 14 attributes for everyone you could just do specific position ones in addition to the physical ones. No reason a lineman needs punting or throwing, that is just pointless space.
My biggest question is the ability for the server(s) to hold all this, but you know a lot more about it that I do.
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Well, I want to be as honest as I can here, Cash.
Maybe you and others may not like it but I think I will tell you what I personally think of this idea and I hope that is okay.
Ok, lets go;
First off all, as I read that you wont have the time it needs to run the SIM LEAGUE if you do the other ‘league’ or whatever it is I already started to dislike the idea. I never tried the game and do not think I will do it. But if it helps to attract more people to Maddenboard and even helps you in other ways like motivation and regular revenue you should do it.
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A good point was touched on earlier. I know a lot of people from my Front Office Football leagues who are on GoalLineBlitz and they have lost interest. Very few stayed with it after a few weeks.
That would be my one concern. Can you create something that will keep people interested.
What I see happening with GoalLineBlitz is much the same as what happens with Fantasy Football Leagues. As the season goes on people are just losing interest.
Hmm. I like the idea. I think it would be a fun thing to do and partake in, but I imagine it would take quite a bit of work.
I think there needs to be some meaning to it though. I mean, there isn't really a huge incentive to Goal line. If there could be a reward system for doing well in this and have it be tried to MB in some shape or form, I think that'd be great.
Well I dont Goal Line and am not very knowledgable on the subject. I can only comment on what I think would be better from an outsider's persepective, rather than what from my own experience I would know to be better.
I think ultimately Cash, if its going to improve the board in your eyes, its worth doing. What I would say, I am far more interested in the SIM League than this. Maybe thats just me (and Billster from the sounds of things), and Im not suggesting you dont do it or anything like that, just my personal preference would be the SIM League.
If this is something you do decide ultimately you want to do, Ill look up as much as I can about it and try and help make comments to improve it. Cos you run the best SIM League, so Im guessing you will want to run the best league in this context too.
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I like the idea. It looks like their site is really booming so why not try something similar? Sure, some people will lose interest with it after awhile, but I would expect new members to replace the inactive ones as the league gains exposure. Take a look at how many leagues they have and imagine the amount of people on there each day. I think that Madden Board's existing forums, the potential of a Sim League, and Cash's upgrades would be all the more reason for these potential members to stick with a Madden Board MMO.
I know that I'm still interested in the GLB league. Working on a PC all day, I find that it's a great way to kill some time. I'm on their site every day checking in on my players, updating their attributes, posting in the forums, etc.
So as far as ideas go......First, I will say that I don't own a team, so I am not familiar with that aspect of the game. I know that owners/GMs have the ability to set their game plans, build stadiums, etc, so Cash may want to spend a $8 or whatever it is to do some research and looks for areas that could be borrowed or improved upon. I know that it would be more realistic if the back-ups saw more limited action behind starters. In the GLB league, it looks like everyone gets equal playing time. There may be an adjustment for Pro teams or in the owner settings, but I have 3 players on three different teams and they all seem to get a lot of plays regardless of where they fall on their teams' depth charts....but I'm sure that is something that Cash would tweek anways.
As far as the players go....
- I've heard that the "Special Abilities" don't do jack until a player reaches level 10. That may be an aspect that could be improved.
- Players' HGT & WHT are randomly assigned, which seems like the only way to go as most people would create their players to freakish dimensions.
- It would be cool if there was some type of chemistry factor. Maybe WRs would develop faster if they play with the same QB in their second season. HBs could get an awareness (or what have you) boost run running behind the same FB, LB, O-Line & D-Line guys could gain points if their starters are re-united, etc. Just throwing it out there as seasons only last 40 days and we could end up with a lot of seasons.
- It would be super cool if new players were thrown into a draft pool and drafted to teams instead of just being UFAs. New players could have the chance to improve their prospects' attributes by gaining "points" (?) through posting or even donating to the board. This means that a member would be required to stay fairly active in the forums in order for his/her new player to be drafted near the top. The incentive for this would be the players salary, playing time (since he would have better attributes), bragging rights, etc. Like Madden, each draft class could have future stars.
- If this league DID find a way to assign new players to a draft pool, the vetern guys could be thrown into a FA pool where they are offered contracts based on their LVL & skill much like real life. Vets should have some type of experience/knowledge factor that makes them all the more appealing.
- Seperate "Player Store". It would be fun to have a feature that allowed a player to buy more things (other than equipment) with their contract money. Maybe a new draftee could update his Madden Board font, color, etc using the money. Another idea would be to have some type of player profile page added where you could see what he drives, how many rooms are in his house, collection of bling, number of girlfriends, etc....all of which could be things that are bought with contract money, money earned through posting, or a combination of the two.
As far as Height and Weight go, surely when creating a guy, they could be factored much like skills would be? Costing points or whatever, but probably more, as they are permanent features on which to build (a 6'6" beast of a WR will obviously have higher potential than a 5'8" one, and that would have to be paid for).
The reason I say that is because Height could be a pretty big issue, and weight in lines and things, so to have it completely random, may be a bad idea.
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I want to be clear that doing this wont mean there isn't a sim league anymore.. it just means that while I am programming it I won't work on the league till its done.. I'm not working on the league now and am not sure when I will be, but I would really like to see Maddenboard become more active than what it is and I think this could be a major upgrade to our community.
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I am in the same boat as Billster, but i see what you are saying. If this helps you to get tothe sim league faster and attract more attention then go for it. These things can be pretty fun. It will make Maddenboard the place to be (not that it isnt already).
For Height and Weight it could factor into what your starting attributes are.
i.e. A 6'6" WR would start at like 12 speed while a 5'8" WR would start at 18, but the 6'6" WR would be able to catch more passes and is a bigger safer target for a QB. That last part is something that Goallineblitz doesn't do at all.
As for weight it could obviously factor into strength and how hard a player is to push back, but it also lowers the athletic ability of players and can make their attributes max out lower. So someone who made a 300 pound DE can't and won't be as fast as a 250 pound DE unless they use all of their "points" on just speed, agility, jumping, etc.
Also, if you could implement multiple defenses instead of just a base 4-3 like Goallineblitz has. Their game seems to be very simple and something for just a casual football fan to be able to master and I think if you do make this then it could, would and should be more indepth for more diehard fans who know what they're doing. Like the type of people that know hands and flexibility are important for lineman and not just strength and "blocking"(Way too broad of a term) so you can get pancakes.
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I'm not sure about how i feel about this at the moment. I'll post when I can actually come up with a good answer.
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I am glad to hear that our league will continue even if it was not the way that I thought this new idea would replace it. I just thought this might take so many time that our league would not move one millimetre forward in the future. But as I said before if this new idea helps the site and Cash I am not against it of course. He should do it. I just might not join it, but that opinion can change too.
My honest opinion is that there would be no better way of getting more people to Maddenboard than to run a league. Madden 2007 would be cool, but I think the new Madden 2009 would be more attractive for most football fans in the internet. I am sure just 1 or 2 seasons of that league and the entire Internet football fans worldwide would know about that league and would find their way to here.
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As far as the sim league goes, it will only involve 31 or 32 people...most of which are already active MB members. If Cash were to develop a GLB style game, he could lure lots of NEW members and the boards would see alot more activity. If you owned the site, which would you do first?
I think that the Madden Board Sim League is unique and there really isn't anything else out there like it when it's running because of all the special "programming a la Cash". Having said that, is there any chance that MB may make the move to League Pulse software? I only bring this up because of the time that's involved on Cash's part. I'm sure it's already been discussed, and that Cash & the mods would prefer his type of league, but for all the time and effort that's involved it may be an option worth considering.
Well, I want to be as honest as I can here, Cash.
Maybe you and others may not like it but I think I will tell you what I personally think of this idea and I hope that is okay.
Ok, lets go;
First off all, as I read that you wont have the time it needs to run the SIM LEAGUE if you do the other ‘league’ or whatever it is I already started to dislike the idea. I never tried the game and do not think I will do it. But if it helps to attract more people to Maddenboard and even helps you in other ways like motivation and regular revenue you should do it.
My heart belongs to our league, but if it helps you, you should go for it…
Certainly a respectable position.
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Hmm. I like the idea. I think it would be a fun thing to do and partake in, but I imagine it would take quite a bit of work.
I think there needs to be some meaning to it though. I mean, there isn't really a huge incentive to Goal line. If there could be a reward system for doing well in this and have it be tried to MB in some shape or form, I think that'd be great.
Oddly enough Cash and I had that exact conversation. And yes... I believe it would be easy to make it matter, it's just playing with the numbers to make it realistic.
And quite frankly... It's one of our strong points.
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If this is something you do decide ultimately you want to do, Ill look up as much as I can about it and try and help make comments to improve it. Cos you run the best SIM League, so Im guessing you will want to run the best league in this context too.
It's been said many a time before by many a programmer of games. It would be something that we would want to play. Given how far Cash is willing to go to have a great sim league... This would be no different.
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As far as the sim league goes, it will only involve 31 or 32 people...most of which are already active MB members. If Cash were to develop a GLB style game, he could lure lots of NEW members and the boards would see alot more activity. If you owned the site, which would you do first?
I think that the Madden Board Sim League is unique and there really isn't anything else out there like it when it's running because of all the special "programming a la Cash". Having said that, is there any chance that MB may make the move to League Pulse software? I only bring this up because of the time that's involved on Cash's part. I'm sure it's already been discussed, and that Cash & the mods would prefer his type of league, but for all the time and effort that's involved it may be an option worth considering.
I'm still considering it.
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I've never played on this goal line blitz website thing.. So I really can't comment. Can someone explain exactly what it is, or provide me with a link?
Extremists are like slinkys... Ultimately useless in the grand scheme of things... But still brings a smile to the face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
At this point I think I have decided to go ahead and start on this..
I would appreciate the support of the Veteran members on this.. I will also probably be looking to promote a few members to Mods once this gets going because we will need a team in place to combat the spam that will be brought about by this.
I will create a thread to keep people updated.
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As a recovered MMORPG addict (once an addict, always an addict) I can not partake in such things anymore. I have no problems with helping out and giving ideas about what might make the game better but thats hard to do without actually playing the game.
I will not be hooked on on-line crack ever again....
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