Sanjaya

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Not even in the bottom three? I mean, I know Howard Stern has his pull and his followers, but geez. Not in the bottom 3!?! I'm starting to think that it is a very real posibility that this kid makes it to the Final 3 at which point the show will get double the amount of votes that it has ever gotten because people like me will be voting for the first time ever to make sure this kid who shouldn't even be on the show doesn't win.

On a side note, I have to wonder why every show this year I am surprised by who gets voted off? How can I be surprised? I knew when there were 12 left that only 3-4 of them can sing worth anything so what does it really matter WHO gets voted off between 12 and 4? It doesn't.

And who thought Gwen Stefani didn't sound like she does every other time you've heard her? Sounded like she has been taking testosterone injections and is on the 6th week of her cycle. Don't HEY BABY me in that low voice!!

Ugh.. American karayoke...who cares? The show has an ever dwindling talent pool that they mostly ingnore in favor of leaving characters that will be talked about around the office the following day. It preaches that it is more important to be discovered than to put in the hard work and dedication to succeed, and panders to those who buy into the current American Ideology of I-deserve-to-be-rich-so-give-it-to-me-now.

Yet the only ones making any real money off of it are the show's creators (Simons Fuller and Cowell) and Fox in the ad revenues department.

This show is all that is wrong with television. It is a sad testament indeed that the previous American Idol had more votes cast in its finale than our last presidential election.

[Madden-All-Star]

The only thing I have to say is if Sinjaya is on Idol for very much longer I'm never going to turn on my TV again and go to the Final of American Idol and sabotosh the whole....Rofl yea Cash I noticed that too, HEY BABY

[Tigam]

Originally Posted by ballbright

Ugh.. American karayoke...who cares? The show has an ever dwindling talent pool that they mostly ingnore in favor of leaving characters that will be talked about around the office the following day. It preaches that it is more important to be discovered than to put in the hard work and dedication to succeed, and panders to those who buy into the current American Ideology of I-deserve-to-be-rich-so-give-it-to-me-now.

Yet the only ones making any real money off of it are the show's creators (Simons Fuller and Cowell) and Fox in the ad revenues department.

This show is all that is wrong with television. It is a sad testament indeed that the previous American Idol had more votes cast in its finale than our last presidential election.

<laughs> Oh you remind me of someone from my past... That's great. Funny stuff, with a hint of truth.

I agree with you Cash...There are 3 or 4 that can actually sing...and thankfully they are still in it. Blake, LaKeshia and Melinda.

With Ben, I have to really disagree with you. These judges in all honesty are finding GREAT talent out there in America. But yes, they(Simon's) are maknig a crap load of money cause of every CD these Idols sell, they get some of that money. Look in the past years.

Kelly Clarkson has sold a bunch of CD's. She's good, has a nice sound....yeah maybe she'd never be anything if she weren't on AI, or maybe she does sell alot cause of AI..not sure. Either way I think she can sing.

Also, Jennifer Hudson winning an Oscar and Carried Underwood winning Grammy's...come on now!


AS OF NOVEMBER 2006(Before Chris Daughtry's Album was released"
Album standings (for one album unless otherwise noted):

1. Kelly Clarkson: 8.1 million (2 albums)

2. Clay Aiken: 4.3 million (3 albums)

3. Carrie Underwood: 3.65 million

4. Ruben Studdard: 2.3 million (3 albums)

5. Fantasia: 1.7 million

6. Josh Gracin: 677,000

7. Bo Bice: 654,000

8. Kimberley Locke: 211,000

9. Diana DeGarmo: 165,000

10. Justin Guarini: 143,000

11. Tamyra Gray: 123,000

12. Kellie Pickler: 79,000

13. LaToya London: 55,000

14. George Huff: 44,000

15. RJ Helton: 21,000

16. John Stevens: 20,000

17. Jasmine Trias: 14,000

18. Jim Verraros: 3,700 (He may have 2 albums out, not sure. If so, this would be a composite total)

19. Corey Clark: 2,500

Idol compilations have sold 2.8 million, which would put them at No. 4, but that's not really fair. Any finalist not listed does not have an album registered with SoundScan or has sales too "negligible" to report.

> Singles:

(does not count downloads, which are listed separately below)

1. Clay Aiken: 1.3 million

2. Ruben Studdard: 751,000

3. Kelly Clarkson: 636,000

4. Carrie Underwood: 457,000

5. Taylor Hicks: 449,000

6. Fantasia: 409,000

7. Bo Bice: 347,000

8. Diana DeGarmo: 201,000

9. Katharine McPhee: 144,000

10. Kimberley Locke: 85,000

11. La Toya London: 8,500

12. John Stevens: 2,700

Idol group-sing singles have sold 508,000 copies.

> Downloaded tracks:

1. Kelly Clarkson: 5.9 million

2. Carrie Underwood: 1.5 million

3. Josh Gracin: 442,000

4. Bo Bice: 377,000

5. Clay Aiken: 328,000

6. Fantasia: 277,000

7. Taylor Hicks: 201,000

8. Katharine McPhee: 156,000

9. Ruben Studdard: 143,000

10. Chris Daughtry: 103,000

11. Diana DeGarmo: 73,000

12. Kimberley Locke: 44,000

13. Elliott Yamin: 25,000

14. Kellie Pickler: 18,000

15. Ace Young: 15,000

16. Vonzell Solomon: 14,000

17. La Toya London: 12,000

17. (tie) Jessica Sierra: 12,000

19. Paris Bennett: 9,900

20. Mandisa: 8,300

21. Scott Savol: 8,000

22. George Huff: 7,800

23. Melissa McGhee: 7,000

24. Constantine Maroulis: 6,000

25. Nadia Turner: 5,800

26. Nikko Smith: 5,300

27. Lindsey Cardinale: 4,500

28. Bucky Covington: 4,400

29. Lisa Tucker: 4,200

30. John Stevens: 4,000

31. Anwar Robinson: 3,500

32. Kevin Covais: 2,900

33. Carmen Rasmusen: 2,300

34. Camile Velasco: 2,100

35. Mikalah Gordon: 1,500

36. Corey Clark: 1,000

37. Kimberly Caldwell: 200


ANd there are many others.

Yes there are some that always get cut before the top 12 that are good and there are some that make the top 12 yet, they suck. Like Sanjaya. Anyway, I just can't agree that the TV show doesn't have a talent pool.

[SenorMatt24]

Hey Souljah, didn't that guy who couldn't sing a few years ago (William Hung or something) get a record deal and sell a few hundred thousand songs? I hope Sinjaya doesn't end up with something like that...

yeah William Hung released a CD....that was a complete joke...but I doubt William ever knew that.

What I was getting at above was that they put a few that actually have talent on there, but mostly its characters they go after when culling down to the final 12 (the reason that the Sunshine guy made it over that african american guy who has the best voice Ive heard in years) because characters get talked about at the water cooler and drive up viewership..which drives up ad rates.

Im telling you the people at the top make a killing on this stuff, you know how much Kelly Clarkson gets off of her contract? It is rumored between 7 and 8 % of album sales. Simon Fuller and 19 Management get the other 92-3 %.

Though they are unable to confirm how little they actually make because if contestants reveal anything to anyone about the workings of the show or the contract they signed, they're liable for damages "in excess of $5 million." Their recording, management and merchandising companies, needless to say, are all owned by 19 Group -- a fundamental conflict of interest familiar to anyone who has studied the machinations of the music biz.

[cashpath]

Im telling you the people at the top make a killing on this stuff, you know how much Kelly Clarkson gets off of her contract? It is rumored between 7 and 8 % of album sales. Simon Fuller and 19 Management get the other 92-3 %.

Though they are unable to confirm how little they actually make because if contestants reveal anything to anyone about the workings of the show or the contract they signed, they're liable for damages "in excess of $5 million." Their recording, management and merchandising companies, needless to say, are all owned by 19 Group -- a fundamental conflict of interest familiar to anyone who has studied the machinations of the music biz.

OK well a few things on this

1) It is rumored but nobody knows because... is like me saying.. there is a rumor that Aliens live in my basement but nobody is sure because they are invisible.. so lets just toss that out as complete nothingness..

2) WAH.... let me get this straight some people who's dream it is to be a star have been made a star get to do what they want to do in life and make MILLIONS of dollars doing it. They would have NEVER made it if not for American Idol.

Lets put this into football lovers terms. Lets say you are good enough to be a starting QB in the NFL yet you would never get a chance but low and behold they make a show and you go on it and you win. But you end up having to sign a contract where you only get 10% of what you would have made.

So when you sign a 50 million dollar deal and a 20 million dollar signing bonus instead you end up with $2 million up front and $5 million over the 7 years you PLAYED football.

Now I don't beleive that the IA contestants that signed this contract only get 10% I think thats a load... I also know that some of them have SUED and have gotten out of parts of thier contract.. but even if it was true..

SO FRIGGEN WHAT? They are making more than what they would have if there was no American Idol.

Go American Idol.. and LONG LIVE WAL MART!!

[holyjabroni73]

What is funny about this flippin Sinjaya dude is that all these little teeny boppers are loving him so much that even if he doestn win he will have a show on Nick or on Disney. Last time I checked this wasnt teeny bopper idol. They should never have let the kid in the final 24 in the first place so its their own darn fault.

[queviva]

Wow... Sanjaya is what happens when you leave things up to mob rule lol. Who the hell does this kid think he is with his big goofy mohawk or whatever? Well, at least he's kind of polite, unlike that Antonella brat who was on. He takes all of Simon's crap because he knows it's totally true that he sucks at singing.

Did you guys catch that one episode where that random 13 year old girl got to meet him and like fainted? What, is Sanjaya going to be the new Michael Jackson?

I agree with Souljah, though, that Melinda, Blake and Lakeisha (my personal favorite) are the only really good talents left in the competition, though that bald guy is getting better from week to week.

[Short]

I don't really watch American Idol but have caught a few performances here and there. Even from the little bit I've seen, It's clear that only Blake, Lakisha, Melinda, and the really young black girl have talent. Blake isn't the best singer there, but I'm pulling for him to win because to me, he's the most entertaining and original. Lakisha and Melinda have amazing voices, but that alone doesn't get you success in that business.

Sanjaya is a joke...like what would have happened if William Hung made the top 24 way back when. Most people find the reject singers from the first few episodes of the show to be the most entertaining part, so naturally when a reject slips into the top 24, those people are gonna vote for him. Then there's the 13 year old girls that are voting for him who are too young to know or even care that he sucks and has no business being there. Don't be surprised when Sanjaya makes the top 5.

[Chaos6]

I hate American Idol. The stupid show thinks it has the right to run for 2 hours and push House out of its slotted time every other freaking week.

House is the only show outside of Family Guy Fox has that I can bear watching...

[Madden-All-Star]

Ha Family Guy you've got to be kidding me