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Yeah Billster you keep saying LEFT... That's not what happened.. they didn't pack up and say "I'm outa here this place is too hot"... They were forced out... after living there for a LONG LONG time..

And then you are saying "As they reached their new home lands"

Like they just moved in and said "Wow look at this place it is empty and looks like a nice place to live..." Sorry buddy it didin't work like that...

The archeological record indicates that the Jewish people evolved out of native Cana'anite peoples and invading tribes.

According to the Bible, Moses led the Israelites, or a portion of them, out of Egypt. Under Joshua, they conquered the tribes and city states of Canaan. Based on biblical traditions, it is estimated that king David conquered Jerusalem about 1000 B.C. and established an Israelite kingdom over much of Canaan including parts of Transjordan. The kingdom was divided into Judea in the south and Israel in the north following the death of David's son, Solomon. Jerusalem remained the center of Jewish sovereignty and of Jewish worship whenever the Jews exercised sovereignty over the country in the subsequent period, up to the Jewish revolt in 133 AD.

Roman rulers put down Jewish revolts in about A.D. 70 and A.D. 132. In A.D. 135, the Romans drove the Jews out of Jerusalem.

However, Jewish communities continued to exist in Galilee, the northernmost part of Palestine. Palestine was governed by the Roman Empire until the fourth century A.D. (300's) and then by the Byzantine Empire.

During the seventh century (A.D. 600's), Muslim Arab armies moved north from Arabia to conquer most of the Middle East, including Palestine. Jerusalem was conquered about 638 by the Caliph Umar (Omar) who gave his protection to its inhabitants. Muslim powers controlled the region until the early 1900's. The rulers allowed Christians and Jews to keep their religions. However, most of the local population gradually accepted Islam and the Arab-Islamic culture of their rulers. Jerusalem became holy to Muslims as the site where, according to tradition, Muhammed ascended to heaven after a miraculous overnight ride on his horse Al-Buraq. The al-Aqsa mosque was built on the site generally regarded as the area of the Jewish temples.

The Seljuk Turks conquered Jerusalem in 1071, but their rule in Palestine lasted less than 30 years. Initially they were replaced by the Fatimid rulers of Egypt. The Fatimids took advantage of the Seljuk struggles with the Christian crusaders. They made an alliance with the crusaders in 1098 and captured Jerusalem, Jaffa and other parts of Palestine.

The Crusaders, however, broke the alliance and invaded Palestine about a year later. They captured Jaffa and Jerusalem in 1099, slaughtered many Jewish and Muslim defenders and forbade Jews to live in Jerusalem. They held the city until 1187. In that year, the Muslim ruler Saladin conquered Jerusalem. The Crusaders then held a smaller and smaller area along the coast of Palestine, under treaty with Saladin. However, they broke the treaty with Saladin and later treaties. Crusade after crusade tried unsuccessfully to recapture Jerusalem.

The crusaders left Palestine for good when the Muslims captured Acre in 1291. During the post-crusade period, crusaders often raided the coast of Palestine. To deny the crusaders gains from these raids, the Muslims pulled their people back from the coasts and destroyed coastal towns and farms. This depopulated and impoverished the coast of Palestine for hundreds of years.

In the mid-1200's, Mamelukes, originally soldier-slaves of the Arabs based in Egypt, established an empire that in time included the area of Palestine. Arab-speaking Muslims made up most of Palestine's population. Beginning in the late 1300's, Jews from Spain and other Mediterranean lands settled in Jerusalem and other parts of the land. The Ottoman Empire defeated the Mamelukes in 1517, and Palestine became part of the Ottoman Empire. The Turkish Sultan invited Jews fleeing the Spanish Catholic inquisition to settle in the Turkish empire, including several cities in Palestine.

In 1798, Napoleon entered the land. The war with Napoleon and subsequent misadministration by Egyptian and Ottoman rulers, reduced the population of Palestine. Arabs and Jews fled to safer and more prosperous lands. Revolts by Palestinian Arabs against Egyptian and Ottoman rule at this time may have helped to catalyze Palestinian national feeling. Subsequent reorganization and opening of the Turkish Empire to foreigners restored some order. They also allowed the beginnings of Jewish settlement under various Zionist and proto-Zionist movements

Jews had never stopped coming BACK to "the Holy land" or Palestine in small numbers throughout the exile. Palestine also remained the center of Jewish worship and a part of Jewish culture. However, the Jewish connection with the land was mostly abstract and connected with dreams of messianic redemption.

So they were run out of thier land by the Roman empire... Then the Byzantines took it... Than the Muslim Arabs decided it looked good and took it... Then some arabs fought some arabs for it.. then Turkish RULE took it in 1517 and INVITED the Jews to move back in to a land that was thiers for a long time..

Then Napoleon AND france came along...

During the siege of Acre in 1799, Napoleon prepared a proclamation declaring a Jewish state in Palestine, though he did not issue it. The siege was lost to the British, however, and the plan was never carried out.

France was going to LIBERATE Palestine again and give it BACK.. but they lost to the British.. and actually the area became an Area of both british and france rule both countries then over the next 200 years allowed the Jews to Imigrate BACK INTO a land that was orgininally thiers...




NOW... correct any of that which is wrong...

AND.. to say that you cannot blame the Palestine people who live there now for what happened 100's 1000's of years ago is fine... But then you can't blame the Israel people who live there now for what has happened over the last 200...



Who was there first??? Oh.. and there is a reason the US likes some countries and dislikes others... WTF would we help a bunch of ANTI-US people when we could help people who are PRO-US? The way I see it both the Israel people and the Palestine people have interest in the land.. they have both lived there.. and they don't get along...

Of course we (The US) is going to back the people who are our friends.. WTF would we back people who are against us?

If your friend got into a fight with someone who openly hated you, and your friend had some merritt to stand on in that fight meaning that he wasn't completely wrong... wouldn't you back your friend? I think so.. Sure you might say "break it up" but if your friend said "NO" what would you do help the guy that hates you to kick your frineds A$$... No.. I don't think so..